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12 Days of Christmas GMAT Competition - Day 11: If abc < 0 and bcd > 0 : Problem Solving (PS) - Page 2

Dec 24, 2022

IMO D.

a.bc < 0 and d.bc > 0
if bc is +ve, then a is -ve, d is +ve
if bc is -ve, then a is +ve, d is -ve

A. positive in both cases
B. positive in both cases
C. unable to determine value of c
D. Negative in both cases
E. unable to determine value of b

Dec 24, 2022

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If and , which of the following is definitely negative ?

A.
B.
C.
D.
E.


 


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abc < 0 => It is possible in 2 cases:
1. a or b or c is negative
2. All of them (a, b, c) are negative

bcd > 0 => It is possible in 2 cases
1. either of two variables is negative (b,c) or (c,d) or (b, d)
2. all of them positive

Let's analyse options:
A. a^2 = +ve b^3 *c^3 = +ve in any of the 2 cases mentioned above and this will make d = +ve
B. all squares => +ve
C. b^4 = +ve a^3 * c^5 = +ve in any of the 2 cases mentioned above and this will make d = +ve
D. b^4 * c^4 = +ve and in any of the cases mentioned above d will be positive and a^3 = -ve =====> should be the answer
E. a^3 * b ^ 5 = +ve in any of the 2 cases mentioned above

Dec 24, 2022

The answer is E. a3b5c4d2

Dec 24, 2022

abc<0 and bcd>0



Anything to the even power is always positive. Since, we are concerned only whether the option is positive or negative we can try and keep the powers of the elements in the products to be the lowest. Ignore the even powered elements and take the power of 1 of the odd powers of each elements( for larger odd powers divide by 2 and take only remainder(1) as power) in the products.

a < 0, b < 0, c < 0. Then d > 0

a < 0, b > 0, c > 0. Then d > 0

a > 0, b < 0, c > 0. Then d < 0

a > 0, b > 0, c < 0. Then d < 0


From the above, we can note the pattern that if a > 0, then d < 0 and if a < 0, then d > 0. We can narrow down choices by considering the resulting term in the product, if it contains only a and d.


A. a^2b^3c^3d

Simplifying we can decide just by bcd.We know bcd > 0, so definitely a^2b^3c^3d is positive. But we are looking for the products that result in negative value. Eliminate


B. a^2b^4c^4d^2

All terms in the product are even powers. So the result will be positive. Eliminate

C. a^3b^4c^5d

We can simplify the above product of terms as acd.

2 solutions are possible that, when a and c are both positive, d can be either positive or negative.
So we can't determine a solution. Eliminate


D. a^3b^4c^4d

We can simplify the above product of terms as ad.
When a is positive, d is negative, then the resulting product is negative.
When a is negative, d is positive, then the resulting product is negative.

Hence, this option will always result in negative number. KEEP


E. a^3b^5c^4d^2

We can simplify the above product of terms as ab.

So there is no way we can identify if the result be positive or negative, as multiple solutions are possible.
Eliminate


Hence the best answer choice is D.

Dec 24, 2022

If abc<0 and bcd>0, which of the following is definitely negative ?

If we solve the prompt (D)

it leads to

(a^3) (b^4) (c^4) (d)

= (abc) (bcd) (b^2) (c^2)

Here, (b^2) (c^2) > 0;.........(1)
abc < 0;;.........(2)
bcd > 0;;.........(3)

product of (1), (2) & (3) < 0

Thus, (D) will be correct

Dec 24, 2022

If and , which of the following is definitely negative ?

A.
B.
C.
D.
E.

Case 1:
A, B are positive, Eliminate
Case 2:
C, E are positive, Eliminate
Case 3:
Case 4:

D is negetive for all the cases

Ans : D

Dec 24, 2022

If abc<0 and bcd>0 which of the following is definitely negative ?

option D is a^3 b^4 c^4 d
= (abc)^3 (bcd)
= (-ive)^3 (+ive)
= -ive value
Hence Option D is correct

Dec 25, 2022

abc<0 and bcd>0
the following cases are possible:

a<0, b>0, c>0, d>0 This gives option A and B positive
a>0, b<0, c>0, d<0
a>0, b>0, c<0, d<0 This gives option C and E positive
a<0, b<0, c<0, d>0

The only choice remains is option D which is not positive for any of the cases mentioned above.
Option D

Dec 25, 2022

If abc<0 and bcd>0, which of the following is definitely negative?

Let's consider a<0 b<0 c<0 and d>0 to match the given inequality and substitute these values to the answers

A. Positive, since the product of 2 negatives, here b and c, is positive
B. Positive, because of the even powers
C. Positive, since the product of 2 negatives, here a and c, is positive
D. Negative because only is negative
E. Positive, since the product of 2 negatives, here a and b, is positive

Answer D

Dec 25, 2022

OA) D
If abc<0 and bcd>0, which of the following is definitely negative?

A.
B.
C.
D.
E.

now based on the question abc<0 & bcd>0

case 1) a<0,b<0,c<0,d>0
case 2) a>0,b>0,c<0,d<0
case 3) a>0,b>0,c>0,d<0
case 4) a<0,b>0,c>0,d>0

option A) sign depends on ,
case 1) a<0,b<0,c<0,d>0 then >0
options A cannot be the answer

options B) sign will always positive
so option B cannot be the answer

option c) sign depends on
case 1) a<0,b<0,c<0,d>0 then >0

option d) sign depends on
in all four sign of a & d is not same so will always negative
so option d is the answer

option e) sign depends on
cases in which a & b signs are same in those cases signs will be positive
so case 1,2 & 3 sign of this option will be positive

Dec 25, 2022

Bunuel wrote:12 Days of Christmas GMAT Competition with Lots of Fun

If and , which of the following is definitely negative ?

A.
B.
C.
D.
E.


 


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step 1:
let a= -ve, b=+ve, c=+ve, and d= +ve

c,d,e are positive

step 2:
a= -ve, b= -ve, c=-ve, d=+ve
c, and e becomes positive,

thus option D is correct

Dec 25, 2022

If and , which of the following is definitely negative ?

can be + + - ; + - + ; - + + ; - - -
can be - - + ; - + - ; + - - ; + + +

A. - dependent on b,c,d - Can be positive
B. - All squares - Can be positive
C. - dependent on a,c,d - Can be positive
D. - - dependent on a,d - will always be of alternate sign
E. - dependent on a,b - Can be positive

Ans: D

Dec 25, 2022

We can see 2 possibilities: i) either a,b,c are all negative or ii) only one of a,b,c is negative and for b or c negative, d is also negative.
We have to see if the options can be made positive to prove 'definitely negative'.

Option A and B : If we consider only a negative by using possibility (ii), then the whole expression becomes positive (since a^2)
Option C and E : Considering all a,b,c negative, this option can be made positive.

Therefore Option D is the answer.

Dec 25, 2022

bb Bunuel

I got this question correct, however, 10 points for answering correctly isn't added. Pls check for the bug.

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